Tony Davis

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The Decline of IE and the rise of browser-based desktop applications

Published Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:37 PM

Until recently, the Internet Explorer V8 group had been a pretty taciturn bunch. However, a few weeks ago, Dean Hachamovitch suddenly popped up with a blog entry announcing that the new IE8 browser had passed the Web Standards Project 'Acid2' test. The blog was full of aspirations about Microsoft's commitment to standards, and their Acid2 test was held up as a sign of this.

 

There was a time that this sort of news would have been significant. No longer. Safari passed the Acid2 test over two years ago, with Opera managing it soon afterwards. Besides Internet Explorer, only the Gecko-based browsers such as Firefox are yet to pass, but Gecko 1.9 beta already passes.

 

Microsoft's decline in their share of the Browser market has been slow but remorseless. The other day, I suddenly noticed that I was no longer using Internet Explorer, other than for testing Web sites against IE 6 and 7.

 

The breaking point for me was the advent of the Firebug debugger. Debugging JavaScript reliably in IE is ridiculously difficult. By contrast, with Firebug, along with IDEs such as that provided by Aptana, the process is as easy as pummelling out VB.

 

It's not just me. On Simple-Talk.com, the usage of Internet Explorer has dropped slightly from 75% to 70%, whereas Firefox has increased its share from 20% to 26%. Extraordinarily few of our readers have bothered to 'upgrade' from IE6 to IE7 in the past year. Just under half of our Internet Explorer users are sticking to IE6. In the past year, the proportion of stalwarts for IE6 has dropped only from 65% to 45%.

 

Ten years ago, the Gecko project seemed doomed. Now, under the wing of the Mozilla Foundation, and their Firefox product, it is all coming right for Gecko.

 

It is not just the ghost of Netscape that has come to haunt Microsoft. Safari too has made inroads, due to its resilience, and clever marketing by Apple. Opera too is looking like a viable alternative.

 

The improvements in browsers in the past two years have spawned a number of sophisticated JavaScript frameworks that start to make browser-based desktop applications look viable to mainstream business. E-bay Desktop http://desktop.ebay.com/ and AOL's Top 100 videos http://music.aol.com/help/syndication/desktop-widgets are already out there and there are plenty more in development. It seems to me to be a sign of health in the IT industry that there are now so many alternative ways to create applications.

 

What do you think? Once again, just add your comments to my blog, and all entries will go into a prize draw to win a $50 Amazon gift voucher!

 

Cheers,


Tony.

Comments

 

Apple » The Decline of IE and the rise of browser-based desktop applications said:

January 22, 2008 7:39 PM
 

BrianTowers said:

Like many nowadays I only use IE when work requires it. For personal browsing I use Firefox.
Firefox had tabs first and the add-ons are wonderful. Has MS copied those yet?
I work with clients in the US and India, so Foxclocks is a must.
The weather add-on is nice.
Add block plus removes a lot of the pain from some web sites.
The Wikipedia look-up extension is also very nice.

Like the Fed, MS has fallen a long way behind the curve.
January 23, 2008 6:58 AM
 

cking2 said:

Yawn. This is like talking about notepad versus ultraedit. Sure, one is better but notepad does the trick and it is there. ;-)
January 23, 2008 8:59 AM
 

Phil Factor said:

I know it is for Brits only, but have you tried the Met Office's Weather gadget for Firefox? It is really cool. It sits in the side-bar. It  was amazing to see the really nasty recent weather coming over and dropping torrential rain on the midlands. As I write, the Scots are getting it in the neck.

I like the skins too. iFox Smooth dioes it for me. Most of all, the British English Dictionary and Firebug. Why on earth would I ever want to use IE?

January 23, 2008 9:16 AM
 

fhanlon said:

I have to agree with cking2.  As a user of IE (not a developer) most of the add-ons are unimportant.  I want to go to web site and view it.  I am unconcerned with dictionaires (which I hope I would find in a development tool anyway and not in a browser tool. )  Why would I want to use IE?  That's easy.  It came with the OS and and I don't need to clutter up my machine by installing something else.   I suspect that is why the majority of Windows based machines use IE.  If IE works most people would not bother to upgrade IE as well.  If your machine was purchased with IE 6 why bother upgrading to 7?  The same people who upgraded to 7 will upgrade to 8 and the rest of the folks will stay at 6 untill they buy a new machine.  Tabs were kind of cool but aside from that..  its just a browser.
January 23, 2008 11:18 AM
 

RobertChipperfield said:

Totally agree with you there. I think IE7 is a huge improvement over IE6, but I'm still with Firefox all the way.

It's definitely worth keeping an eye on Firefox 3 - it's only in Beta at the moment, but there's some fantastic usability improvements that I really miss when I go back to Fx2. For example, the address bar now supports substring searching of both your bookmarks and history, so I can start typing in a bug description, and up pops the list of bugs I've viewed recently that match it. Ditto for wiki pages. It's little things like that that really make the difference.

The only downside is, at the moment, only a US English dictionary is available for the form field spell check - I believe they've changed the engine they're using for this, so the dictionaries will need to be re-released. I'm sure this will happen in time for the final launch.
January 23, 2008 11:22 AM
 

HotAir said:

IE6 usage is about to drop significantly due to the Feb 12 rollout of the update to IE 7: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;946202
January 23, 2008 1:42 PM
 

ksubha100 said:

Though IE7 market share may have declined, I doubt Microsoft will lose it's lion share. I know certain companies have avoided upgrading to vista and have not taken the effort to upgrade their apps to IE7 but that is not to say they eventually won't. But with Microsoft having enterprise level agreement with many companies, other browsers seem not to have gotten as strong a hold eventhough some of their features are far superior to IE6/IE7!
January 23, 2008 3:17 PM
 

Lagbolt said:

Browser applications are definitely taking over ME.  I spend far more time in Google Mail and Google Reader than I do looking at web sites.  In fact, I don't do much "surfing" any more at all.  Most of the web sites I visit, including this one, are the result of an email, an RSS item, or a search for something specific.

I switched to Firefox while it was still a little ember.
January 23, 2008 3:46 PM
 

IowaWebDave said:

IE still dominates our stats.  Like many of the other posters have said, I think it depends on how much you "care" about the browser.  If you're an average user, you probably will use IE because it comes with your Windows machine and is what you've always used.  If you're a developer, you are more likely to use other browsers.  (I'm that strange developer who uses IE for 2 main reasons: our intranet doesn't work with anything else and most of our site's visitors still use IE.)
January 23, 2008 6:13 PM
 

Phil Factor said:

HTML5
In case you missed it, on Tuesday 22 January 2008, the W3C published the latest W3C Working Draft  of HTML5 . HTML5 will take over from both HTML4 and XHTML1, and all the major browser providers are working on implementing it.
If you have anything to do with websites, you're going to end up being pretty familiar with the contents of this document. It is nicely written, with none of the usual pomposity that one  is usually faced with.
In reading through it, I was struck by how much was relevant to 'Best Practice' with HTML4 and XHTML1. The reforms and additions of HTML5 are long overdue, and so one very much hopes that all the browser providers are getting ready to release HTML5-compatible versions as soon as the standard is finally released.
The document 'HTML5, A vocabulary and associated APIs for HTML and XHTM' L is on http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/
January 24, 2008 2:37 AM
 

Robyn Page said:

Thinking of browser-based tools, my favourite one at the moment is Buzzword, which is now owned by Adobe. It is a wordprocessor with the potential for collaboration. It is still in active development, and new features keep popping up. The interesting thing for me is that it is written in Flash. I didn't think such a thing was possible.

The developers are very keen on design. The colour schemes are utterly gorgeous and the fonts are wonderful to look at. If you are at all sceptical about the potential of Browser-based apps then check it out.
January 24, 2008 7:52 AM
 

bsimmons said:

I have switched to FF as being my main browser since 2006.  I only use IE6/7 when a site requires it (MSDN, some financial institutions, etc...).  I hope FF comes out with a native 64-bit version.
January 24, 2008 8:51 AM
 

Mohi said:

I also used firefox as the main browser with IE as the backup, but with FF extensions like IE View I do all my browing within FF. IE7 was a big step from IE6 but the lack of extensions and other customizability still means it drags behind FF when it comes to usage.
January 27, 2008 2:03 AM
 

myLittleTools said:

The most important thing in your article is not the decline of IE: Users have now the choices between powerful browsers, it's a long time we know that. The rise of web-based (or browser-based) applications is more interesting. As an editor, i bet on this from several years now and i'm pretty sure web-based apps is the next paradigm in the software world.
January 27, 2008 11:01 PM
 

Artel said:

Agreed, though FireFox is still not without its own problems.  Look at this article posted on ZDNet.  http://blogs.zdnet.com/hardware/?p=923.  I am not in any way against FireFox, I just thought I'd share this.

Does anyone know if this has been fixed?

For a really cool Desktop Application on the Web, check out www.meebo.com.
January 30, 2008 7:55 AM
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