Rodney

Funny thing about a fractured hand for a blogger/author/coder....

Published Thursday, August 16, 2007 8:17 PM

They tend to not write as much and make very long titles to their blog entries.  Though I have about 35 ideas right now that I want to get down from my recent travels to a Houston SQL PASS chapter meeting, I can only effectively get down 1 because the back-space key is making me want to drink to curb the pain. Funny thing about beer....hard to drink left handed, like everything else when you are a righty.

But...I wanted to send a quick thank you to the folks in Houston who had many good ideas that will eventually make their way into my daily work. One is the bane of batch processing, waiting for one task to complete (error free) before the next begins. On restores of 100+G databases, this is,of course, not efficient. The solution (avoiding linked servers) is to kick off a threaded SSIS package or SQL Agent job instead, which should not require a return code before the next can be initiated. Failure becomes the responsibilty of the called server/package, though.

Ouch....bone pain and back space.

I would like to thank those of you who read, voted and commented on my recent article on temporarily changing the sa password. Given godspeed healing powers, I hope to have the follow up article (as true to life as the previous) done and posted in the next week. 

Going numb...must quit soon.

The final thought is pronunciation of some SQL terms. We all know that SQL is pronounced S - Q - L not sequel, right? Well, how do you pronounce the following?

GUID.

I said "Goo Id" for the last 5 years until a conference when a MS techno pronounced it like "SQUID".

So...now where is the calimari? Getting hungry for SEQUEL.

Forgive the spelling. If I could just...reach....my....utility....belt.

 

by Rodney

Comments

 

Phil Factor said:

er.. If SQL is pronounced Ess-queu-ell how come the language was originally called SEQUEL.  All that is happened is that so many people have mispronounced it as 'ess-queu-ell' (ˈɛsˈkjuˈɛl) that it has become an alternative pronounciation.

How did you come to damage yourself?
August 18, 2007 10:01 AM
 

ShawnNWF said:

Phil,  that original version was not the structured query language that we use today, but structured english query language.  The SQL standard that we use today has been given the pronunciation definition Ess-kew-ell.  Here is a quick excerpt from the book "Inside Microsoft® SQL Server™ 2005 T-SQL Querying"

"As for historical reasons, in the 1970s IBM developed a language called SEQUEL, which was an acronym for Structured English QUEry Language. The language was designed to manipulate data stored in a database system called System R, which was based on Dr. Edgar F. Codd's model for Relational Database Management Systems (RDBMS). Later on, the acronym SEQUEL was shortened to SQL because of a trademark dispute. ANSI adopted SQL as a standard in 1986, and ISO did so in 1987. ANSI declared that the official pronunciation of the language is "ess kyoo ell," but it seems that this fact is not common knowledge."
August 21, 2007 8:23 AM
 

Phil Factor said:

I've never heard SQL Server pronounced any other way than sssequell  Server. This debate rages on continuously on the internet (try typing in 'SQL pronounciation' into Google if you have a spare hour). Whilst I try to be fair and even-handed on most subjects, I refuse to kowtow to the ANSI committee on the subject of how to pronounce 'SQL'.
August 23, 2007 2:47 PM
 

Phil Factor said:

... you'd do better typing in 'sql pronunciation'. Oops-typo
August 23, 2007 2:49 PM
 

ShawnNWF said:

I am the first to admit that in everyday use, I too use the pronunciation sequel too.  You are absolutely correct in the fact that we shouldn't kowtow to a standards organization for our pronunciation of words.  I, for one, will not be a pawn in the manipulation and fascist pigeonholing of our language.  Who are these standardization organizations to tell us how to spell and pronounce our words?  Down with ANSI! Down with Webster!

"Now is the wintor uv hour discount tent, maid gloryus summar bye this son uv Yorc!"

I hope that you take this response in jest, as it was meant to be taken.  The point that people know what you are talking about even if you use either pronunciation is moot in my opinion.  The quote above is readable and recognizable by most native english speakers, but without standards of how to spell or pronounce these words, the result can be a bit confusing.
August 24, 2007 9:05 AM
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